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then faster naturally will come up and address us it's great to have him here we've had a great few days thus far been very encouraging to get to know him and pray for him for many years and to the church there and the Elder it so yeah just a wonderful brother so I really encourage you to try and get to know him more and just hear about the word of Christ in that part of the world so Psalm 67 to the chief musician on strained Insurance a Psalm a Psalm God be merciful to us and bless us and cause his face to shine upon us to say love that your way may be known on Earth your salvation among all nations but the peoples Praise You O God and all the peoples praise you will let the Nations be glad and sing for Joy for you shall come to people righteously and govern the Nations on Earth say love let the people's Praise You O God let all the peoples praise you and the Earth shall yield her in Grace God our own God shall bless us God shall bless us and all the ends of the Earth shall fear Him amen let us pray our blessed God and Holy Father we thank you for the Lord today we thank you for the privilege to gather for court of worship we thank you as well that our brother can be here for those from that distant country and we just pray that you will bless his time Among Us I pray that he would be encouraged and strengthened and built up that he'd be able to go back refresh to his church and be able to be a faithful man of God continue to be a faithful man of God in that congregation as well give us ears to hear and hearts you receive your truth we pray that you would encourage us as we consider this report this morning and do bless us as we sit under the preaching of your holy word forgive us for all of our sin and transgression and be glorified now and we ask through Jesus Christ Our Lord amen amen we can turn the number 405 into your handbooks number 405 for the sake of time will sing the first and that the sixth stanzas number 405 so number one and number six I love my kingdom songs [Applause] [Music] foreign [Applause] [Music] [Music] let us know what's going on out there I thank you so much good morning I'm so glad to finally be among you uh kept correspondence with you as a church particularly with my dear brother Steve very faithful in responding often I've bothered him with so many emails but has been very gracious to uh okay and and so just so glad that we can be here together the lord gave me safety on the way please receive greetings from my church when I left last Sunday I mentioned to them that I'll be among you and that this morning I was able to also talk with my wife and she is doing well she's very excited that it has gone well so far so I'm really glad I have opportunity to share with you what the Lord is doing in Among Us in eldoretadine Kenya in general um there is much that I can say I want to restrict myself first of all to the slides and then after that please you will be very free to ask any questions that may come from the slides or as I speak through the slides or anything that you desire to know but it's not captured uh but as you've heard my name my wife is called helida and we've got two children uh Tim who is around 32 years of age our daughter Elizabeth is [Music] um 28. I often miss the years but they're not here my wife especially is not here so that's okay she would correct me immediately but we did move to eldoret as in a moment then we will see I've got this stick here not to discipline anyone but if need be I may just point um at the screen but I'll try to just move on so that Arrow shows where Kenya is in relation to Africa next please and and that one is zeroing in onto eldoret um little town so this is uh Indian Ocean and Mombasa some of you would have heard of Mombasa a very famous city at our coast and then this is Lake Victoria uh the it's a fresh water lake right in the middle of Kenya of Kenya Uganda and Tanzania so we shared Lake Victoria together next place so I want to talk mainly about what you see here um on May the 2018 is a unique year for us because we finally moved into this structure that as you will see as we go on it's not finished but we're using it so let's move on and see how did we reach there next place okay so as stated there 2007-2008 was violence following presidential election in Kenya and eldoret was greatly affected it was the epicenter and of course most people lost their lives as that happens a lot sadly during our campaign times and then many moved into because their homes were destroyed they were displaced and so many moved to machship camps within some part of eldoret and it was not only eldoret that had um such makeshift tents but in many places but this is eldoret where we uh we uh okay next with my son we got opportunity to visit the people in the camp so there I I sat as I talked with an old lady and you can see the ground we didn't go immediately it's a quite a number of weeks after that actually because the ground is well beaten and some of the tents are even torn because it's windy and and the life condition wasn't really great but we had opportunity to to witness to them until next and food was scarce we had opportunity to go even into some of the tents to talk with them next please and I sat with that elderly lady it is a difficult time it was so this is really all she had uh you can see a little lump there and cooking space and so we were basically sitting on the bed on her bed with her and the daytime then the the part of the tent is basically moved out so that the light can easily get into the tent okay next eldoret is not my original home I just moved there with my family and that's a I would say a story for another day but actually is because my wife was unwell uh and we moved from Nairobi I moved up from Nairobi as we were seeking a medical help in eldoret and so while we were there we realized eldoret is spiritually very very needy there wasn't any and even now any biblical churches hardly now we thank God we are there but I can't really count like five of them in the area so we rented a home so it's not our building at all it's just a home we rented we were to live there for 10 years and that is where slowly I began to do one-to-one evangelism and people began to come to hear more of God's word next place the the slide some of them will move a bit funnily because one of the young men in our church set it up for me and and so we can blame him for that but but he knows he he's just so good in that so right in front of our house so the previous one showed the house where we live in uh and in front I asked the owner of the house and they said no problem just use my compound as as U.S because he was a religious person he later passed on but he allowed us to use his compound very freely so we set up a tent and in that tent the church was to meet for a number of years that followed next please after the worship service quite a number uh people would be there many children would be there and and so we took that photo this is my wife okay and I'm standing there a number of people are there my son would have been somewhere near the corner then it is it's a few this one is a few years or quite some time back okay next please okay um now this is our living room uh my wife is teaching children's Sunday school and these children have grown up now and and this one is the young man who is the brain behind all these funny way the Lord has gifted him so much and I point this out because we began with him in the Sunday school and now you know the Lord saved him I baptized him and so he is our I.T boy you know all questions to do with I.T he's just amazing okay next please a Saturday afternoon and we would engage children in in playing some fun games and then teach them God's word thereafter so that's a Saturday afternoon activity next please okay we we got this trampoline as a gift from someone and children just loved it if if adults are not there they all would be on it which can be dangerous but they always looked forward we we actually got some children come Faithfully to Sunday school thereafter because of something like this uh they they loved and they knew after church we would allow them to play a little on it next and then in 2013 so as uh I mentioned we did move to eldoret in 2006 and through that period it was more one-to-one evangelism making contacts uh and a number of these people uh I got to then know them over the years he's called Moses Moses at the moment now the Lord has worked in his life he is one of our elders with me under my student for a long time waiting to graduate and then the next one is my wife next to Moses then the very tall one is um called Paul Paul kenno he has been or he had been an elder with me for a number of years but more recently when we constituted the church in K Richard town so he left being an elder with me and moved to kericho and then the next right here was our first Deacon he then later asked to be relieved of that work because he felt he wasn't participating in the activities of the church due to his work then next to him is the young man he has again grown now he's called Remy and Remy with Moses are Elders with me and and this one is called Victor Victor then moved from us to Nairobi and he is Desiring to return to Eldred so this is certainly an old picture but where they are stunning is the sport that we did by and over the years we have set up a church just to mention what we can see at the back there is town area so we are basically just behind the town okay next please so when we acquired this piece of ground we were so excited we began to fence it as we really wanted the church to move to to this ground we were the only one in this area where we are now as you can see there's there's a river it's not obvious but there's a river dividing the side where we have the land and the upper side so there's a river there that crosses over um but we were the only ones at this time on this area we will see some old old school by the side here it was abandoned it's a really where the the only ones who came to be in that area and after that then people I think felt free enough to now begin to develop their own Parcels of land next place and then so this is an old school that basically got abandoned ourselves we put up the washrooms Fairly temporary nature and and this is a building you know where a structure temporary structure we put up so uh one portion was going to be for our meetings the middle portion would be like um a little office on the far end would be where the security man would be because it's an area that as we came knowing that um tugs you know muggers would be in the bushes so we needed a security in that area okay next please however very soon after we put up everything the authorities came and demolished our premises so what you are seeing here really is what we saw in the previous uh picture setup you know built as temporary as there were but the next thing is demolition we had even brought our our chairs and and we were working flattening the ground wider to bring the tent that you had earlier seen in front of our rented house so the next thing was going to be bringing the tent onto the ground when they decided to demolish this structures next place yes the reason for demolition remains unclear but we suspect it was due to corruption at the land's office um we did not corrupt someone you know or people and so it's like wait a minute you need to know you need to do whatever you're doing through us okay so and and we were not going to do that um others thought that they were coming to demolish other structures around and they did reach and demolish Ours by as mistaken identity but we know our country's system well enough uh we know that's what happened they they never apologized we were tempted to take the matter to court but we knew that we will anyway need them later when we will be putting up you know permanent structure and and so we kind of said they have not explained to us uh but uh um we will nonetheless move on we still need them so we had to weigh what is best to do okay so again my wife the former Deacon and Lois passed away last year so they just remained pondering what next next place okay but a few years later so as you'd remember we purchased the property in 2014 so about two years later we moved on really and put a perimeter wall all around the property just to mention that where this tent is being pitched is at an extreme corner of my parcel of land but the the the next parcel just next to it is for the church so we have two Parcels of land next to each other this was really the Lord's doing we had two different owners and they were both sailing out their land at the same time so we were able to buy both of that so one side is officially for the church one side for for us as a family okay and and so we were putting this it was Race Against Time as we'll see the next uh slide we wanted the church to move into a more public place rather than having to continue meeting in front of our house there are people who feel a bit uneasy to to to meet in a private property next place okay so Men at Work just getting the sorry sorry getting the place ready this would have been on on a Saturday morning really just the whole day getting the place ready for the the service to to move the church to move its activities onto this um property next place and so this was the first worshiper service in the tent in the in the parcel of land that we we had bought so it was a day of great excitement actually and and of course we we made efforts to invite friends uh so friends came from various places but among those who came and I want to point out is uh this elderly lady here that's my mom uh mom traveled about 65 miles um of course brought there by my brother who is a teacher he is also here but Mom is elderly as we're talking now she's 98 years but loves the Lord and very really very strong in the faith and the Lord has blessed her with the good eyesight she still reads her Bible without glasses if I remove mine well then I won't see much but but there we are so she she came and all the major events in our church she would come to join with us you know for the occasion she's been a great encouragement in my life and in the ministry I'm involved in next please so that's a meeting going on Sunday service in the 10th you'd understand this very hot inside she's not meditating but she fell asleep actually so yes next please but the joy was there children were happy just to mention that the years later we baptized this young girl herself and her family they moved to the city of nakuru because the father became an elder with us and we sent him to nakuru and so she the Lord has saved her and we baptized her last month so she is a member of the church in nakuru city next please this one is our committee building committee uh yes I'm standing there this is our sun team and my wife and then a number of men in the church most of them have moved on to various uh places but we still have this one and this one in the church others then have moved to other places so this team worked hard to keep the the church building project going on next please okay okay so as I mentioned the piece of ground this side belongs to the the the church where the tent is pitched right that side is our family land and this worked out well because then we decided since the old place is a bit crumbed we decided that we will put the tent way near the corner of our piece of land and then the church can be work can be done on the side it's a very sloppy area you can see that's why then they're digging in uh cracking the the Rocks so that we can get a wide enough portion for the the floor measurement to be achieved okay and and then at the same time uh when really work began and we got a so he appeared to be a good contractor I did not want to be building my own house separately and the church going on to do the the church structure separately and so we agreed that the contractor will just give him the money he he assured us he he convinced us that he he knows good suppliers he's got a large Workforce so that he could be working on the church side and also on the pastor's house at the same time so I didn't need to buy my own private materials for the church for the pastor's house and then other things going on for the church well let's move on to the next place thank you so the work certainly continued on this was the contractor we got later he proved to be very unfaithful doing in engineering and so constantly they would be Consulting uh and um you know agreeing together and moving on so the work was going on very well next okay so it's really taking ship the foundation a lot of work had to be done on the foundation because of the terrain but certainly everyone was busy doing their part next place okay and so it's all taking ship next please however as it's say here the contractor disappeared with all the money that we gave him and never to be seen up to date I think occasionally we have had people saying oh yeah he was seen but we've never seen him in eldoret or anywhere in Kenya at all so he disappeared with the church's money with our own family money because we really wanted to make sure that the building is finished in good time our own house finished so we could move away from the rented house but uh for a number of months the building just stopped there was nothing we could do but to pray next and and so it stalled this so you can see the tent is out here the church structure is here and the pastors house is here so the the middle just along this wall this is the defense between the the the the pastor's side and the on the church side it all stopped for quite a number of months uh next place then much later quite a number of months later we got some bit of money from brethren in different places and then the work moved on very quickly so that we could at least begin to use the the building um again next please and and so that's now what we have of course since then we've done some painting uh but the that's the structure we will see as we move on that uh the the top floor is not yet done it is a flat roof at the moment with a concrete and we are facing a challenge with the rains because then the span is very wide it holds water for quite a long time before it dries off but we do use the building next please so yeah that's what brings us now to May the 20th it was exciting again we invited many friends and a number of uh people you can see here a number of them were people who were involved in the building they are not members of the church but that day everyone was happy they wanted to be a part of the of the whole celebration and just to mention again she's seated here so she traveled again from the village just to be with us on that occasion that's my mom okay next please so inside the building a much more recent photo that's how it looks like um it's a much wider building but we decided to to put a petition so that we could have um what would you call it cry room you know parents and babies would use that and then others if it's there's an overflow then others would use this other side but at the moment that is the the the nature how it looks like okay next place and and so one of the services in those earlier days going on what we'll be seeing we've gotten quite a number of universities and college students joining with us in worship we we arrange for them to come pay their fare both ways is costly but we we love to do that because for the four years that they are attending the various institutions of learning in eldoret we are able to give them a solid word of God and for for us to praise God and really because it's very encouraging yes not yesterday but today they have already had their service I talked with my wife they had just come from church and by the afternoon service they still had 25 students from various colleges and universities still remaining with them in the afternoon service there were more in the morning some had gone but 25 was still remaining for the afternoon service so that's really encouraging to to have them with us and that number next place okay so uh this shows some holiday Bible club we do gather children from the neighborhood and they're glad to to just come and and learn and play and have some biscuits oh that that draws a number of them and some juice yes next place um and a number of baptisms already done we have conducted in in our new building most of these our University students they joined us in the membership um unfortunately after four years or the fifth year they've realized that after their graduation there is nothing that Elder it you know in terms of work eldoret cannot employ we cannot get employment within eldoret area so they move to other towns and cities and so that has become the trend there with us for so long and then start to see them go so a number of them then have gone but that was one of the baptisms next place okay so this one was taken right I took the photo right on the roof so we hope that someday we could get the columns go up and and quickly reach the the roof and that way when it rains we don't get water settling down here for for many hours or for a few days um the sun helps when the sun you know is hot it evaporates but it takes a while and we already have some you know some leakage in some areas so certainly we need to work on the top roof yes next place okay so uh these are the stairs going up um and just looking at it from another angle you'd you'd see portions like these ones uh just housing which have come over the years now since we we put up our building people I think felt the Ada is safe so slowly other housing uh are coming around the building around the area where we are next please okay so yeah that this shows spots of of rain water still um around we tried to make the the top proof a little with a bit of an angle so that it doesn't stay there flat but still it does not uh all move away and this uh these are residential areas that have only come after we put up or after we began the work that we you now see people felt the Adas much safer and yeah okay however maybe I'll be mentioning as we move on that we have had challenges with the security people have come to give us problems and and it may not be very clear but this is a sign a big fairly big sign indicating Grace Baptist Church eldoret so that the people who are coming from the other side would see that oh there is a building because it's more under you know it's not very obvious but that sign helps now thieves the second time now the thieves came and tried to take away the metal the anything metallic they they want to take away and and go sell and make some bit of money so that's what happened a few days ago when I left home next please okay so that's just another perspective showing the what they wanted to remove was basically uh something like this on the the back side of our church building okay next this is what we pray the Lord will help us finally have at the moment what we have is what you see here the the lower part of the building okay and then God willing when the roof is on we will have it's not just the roof but we will have various other rooms up here which would provide us with accommodation so that when we have conference we can accommodate everyone within the structure or when we have theological students and then at the far end we would have a guest guest room so that a preacher or lecturers who come would conveniently be housed so that's really what is there is a a picture showing now also the other reason is that it is re-approved drawing the original drawing lived its life it lived um it had stayed for over three years but every three years any drawings or any building Works must go through reapproval and and so at the moment we are on the second life as it were of our drawings um and and that should be three years will be ending sometime next year in October so please do pray with us that if we can really Reach the the roof even if the walls you know even if the the walls of the building is not there but if it goes to the roof then us um you know us members in the church we can now put the the blocks you know to fill the walls but we just need to reach the roof in good time next please okay this one just to show uh here myself in the middle and this is Remy and this is Moses um fellow Elders with me they they are new in the work as it were but I'm just so glad that I can have these two men um really move on and I pray that if need be I can be removed they will they will remain in the work there however with the work having started you know a church planted in kericho and another planted in nakuru city we are eager to do another church plant in other towns so among the three whoever the Lord would lead to to another place ready to go so if it's me I don't mind or if it's the younger man I suppose they will run ahead of me and say we want to go but there we are okay next please these current membership we thank the Lord for them quite a number of of members left us by the end of last year so beginning the year quite a number uh went away but these are our youngest members who joined us in fact we took this photo uh just a couple of months back the the three were baptized these three here okay good next please ladies Fellowship every not every twice a month and thankfully they desire they would meet together and ask one of the elders to to teach them and so this particular time I taught them from Titus Chapter 2 about the older women teaching the younger women to love their wives their their husbands their children the homekeepers so please do pray for them that they will truly grow in loving the word and what the word teaches them they will gladly do to remember them in prayers next place okay that's my wife um and yeah just you know a little uh got in okay next please this is an interesting one recently um actually last month now in in August we had thieves break in and he is actually carrying a speaker huge you know speaker and there were two of them so while he's cutting this away the other one is transacting things in there already he had carried away a keyboard and they put it near the fence they were there after that they were going to carry them out of the fence when we had this is of course the CCTV but when we had the our security dogs backing endlessly so we woke up and and and and ran towards the the building as you would remember basically our fans and the church fans are basically together so we ran and and that commotion made them drop as much as they had outside there there were three of them and we were able to capture some of these they went away with some you know the offering of the of the day and also a laptop so here is um instruments room which they broke and after that they came and broke the office door and then in the office door they broke the cabinet and got a laptop out but the laptop they went away with it next next so when that happened then we we felt we really just had to raise the wall the perimeter wall of the church and so that's what these young men are doing removing the grill and then extending the wall uh much higher so that they at least find it harder to to scale the world next please well this one is about the crest kisumu reformed School of Theology we would move with this is my colleague he's called Sam oloch he's a pastor in Nairobi and and so um every three months he comes from Nairobi I come from eldoret then we we travel to kisumu and teach these men that particular time we had this brother come from the U.S and he was Recon he was our visiting teacher and so the men come from different parts of Kenya but he comes from Burundi he comes from Uganda okay we also had one coming from Rwanda but when the kovid um struck then especially the Burundi brother could not continue to come and then the Rwanda brother also could not come but the the Uganda brother continues to join with us and he should be finishing his studies and so every three months we meet for a whole week I mean from a Monday to a Friday teach them God's word they carry home assignments for three months and then they return for marking for exams and then for new teachings next please okay so that's uh showing uh more current uh class earlier this year next please and then every December holiday we we have what we call reformed Family Conference and we invite friends from all our sister churches and others and and so this just a few years back a more recent one of last year we have in Greater number well it's building up slowly we also invite speakers from different parts um of the you know really not just of the country but around the world pastors from Zambia has come have come to preach and then a few from other parts of the U.S and the UK next place great so thank you I believe that should be the last one okay great so that's uh about it and the place if you'd like to Yes dear pasta yeah Elder it is not yet a city it's not yet declared as City however eldoret is boasting if we may use the language of the population of or half a million so 500 000 people are there in eldoret in terms of Industries previously it was thriving there was so much going on in Eldred fabric you know textile we call it but fabric then wheat Maize diary you know dairy dairy farming um but unfortunately that hasn't progressed we are not seeing much of that happening in state things are running down or run down eldoret though after Nairobi the capital city eldoret even though not a city is the second in terms of institutions of learning so there are so many institutions of learning in and around eldoret number of universities colleges just schools and and that helps us we're able to have so many join with us in our church please do pray for us because the we we enjoy to see these people but uh four years down the line five sad to see them go someone else oh yes yes please are you living there now oh yes yes um it's not completed but it's usable as the language I bought for us and for the church later we just had to put every bit of money we could because where we were renting it indeed it was good however oh yes thank you yeah um the later the owner of the property that we were renting gave us a very short time looking back it was the best thing that happened to us but he gave us a very short time that he wanted to now use his property for something else we had to move and and looking back we thank God that we were basically forced to move we still would be there um yeah but and also for the church as I've said usable but not completed or is it is it resources from workers or what's the pause for the second for the next tier of the church is it primarily winning oh yes right primarily money that's what has held us but what we were thinking we could do was that as a church we could just raise one column up you know one after then maybe two three months another column up but the the foreman the man we have been using over the years you know after the contractor disappeared he's a Christian and he said no please if you do single columns every time at the end you'll use so much money well we don't have the money and and when we try to save the the money we have there are other needs in the church so it hasn't been really possible but we are hoping if we could then just shoot the The Columns up reach the roof and then other things can follow challenges of the ministry in Kenya you mentioned actually the Holiness of repentance movement or other things like that yes let me begin with the latest the latest challenge for us in eldoret in our church and our area of operation as I said we moved to that area when it was just bushy you know we had to clear the bush and and made the Thugs who were hiding feel uneasy so they moved away then of course people began to now come to fill the area but more recently yes today being a Sunday is the third Sunday we got some neighbors very noisy neighbors is is a extreme charismatic group you know um claim it name it claim it [Music] um and and they're there my wife told me sorry we there's nothing we can do we're just continuing but there are no easy they're very just very very noisy so that is a real challenge we have at the moment um uh next to our church and then the the others generally speaking I think once again just the false gospel mainly charismatic you know um health and wealth and it may not have reached your headlines here but um such strange groups were found to have involved um deception they they get people join the group they teach that we want to help you reach heaven quickly you know meet God quickly by starving you to death and honestly it's very sad but uh over 400 bodies have been retrieved of people who are brainwashed and therefore cheated and made it to starve to death and and buried you know so now these graves are being the bodies are being exhumed and that's in the name of of Christianity in Kenya so we are operating seeking to preach the right gospel in a in an atmosphere of a lot of religious activities but uh which are really but evil yeah so that which happened of these people who were who were stabbed to death are not immediately near us but certainly what happened is as we mentioned Mombasa right near the coast so there that group is operating near Mombasa but the new group that the noisy neighbors are related to the Mombasa people so in that sense they don't scare us because we we stand for the truth and we will maintain the truth but knowing that they are there and they are very uncooperative so that makes it hard yeah yeah two people yes and then we'll come to you okay some Infinity for are you pretty much on your own strictly much on our own however early this year [Music] I made a bold step and engaged near neighbor that is a charismatic church and and we did that so that we can hold a conference we call it African Pastors Conference um we is organized by some dear friends from can not can Conrad beware and group they have organized African Pastors conference and they would organize them to run in different countries so when they come to Kenya it takes place in in eldoret and so this time around I engaged our immediate neighbors and interesting thing is they they know one another they have their own network of such charismatic judges this was the largest number because we engaged them in fact we held the meetings in their church and but the accommodation and meals we did in our church we had close to 200 but when we invite them to come for the same conference when we hold it in our church premises we get about 50 but maximum I think 75 so it was an impact but but running a conference with them you know cooperating with them is very hard so may the Lord give us wisdom what will we do next year that yes they are there and yes please [Music] with lots of institutions very youth being in the area yes what is it like it's really yours yes good loads of Youth as you're you're right there what do they do well as I've said institutions are there people are in taking their courses they're they're learning in secondary schools um but when they're done there's nothing much to offer them because as I've said even um textile you know Industries are a bit run down and other areas like that so people many people are there with nothing to to make a living on on crimes hence uh you know breaking into our premises so in August they broke in and stole a laptop at our church and just when I left home I don't know whether they heard because it was announced that I'll be away for two Sundays then they came back again and and and stole our one of our security lights and then they moved on to the church premises to try to take away something from church anything that they can sell in this case metal so so there is insecurity um yet that is where the gospel is is needed so the needs are there fiscal needs people need to work to make a living um they don't have what much to do drugs yes we visited a school recently to preach the gospel and one of the teachers pleaded with us please find a way of helping us speak to our students because drugs are a real problem so a number of students are on drugs and and so we're just hoping that the Lord will help us to be of help to them that's a public school the public schools yes yes yes unfortunately there's some bad teaching that goes on in there but the public school system wants uh religion in there to teach the kids about that that's true it's a little bit of a different scenario than what we're doing wow yeah yes sorry I've eaten all the time but uh definitely I'll be there to ask yes oh okay Christianity in general you know in in a big way but true Christianity honestly is very small genuine Christianity and and that's why uh Brethren please pray for uh my country we feel those who by God's grace know the scriptures and and hold it dearly we a few um so Christianity is the largest the smallest of course is Islam but they are the loudest so that and others in between so yes yes as regards to the issue of confessional subscription in North America they have a lot of professing Reform people that are not consistent with the crazy confessions of church history and therefore it's very confusing when people claim to be reformed when they are demotionally not is that something that you see at the moment that is not a big problem we are so few you know the reformed are so few uh however uh the as I've mentioned the the word shakahola the these um deception that led to so many people starving to death has caused um the government to say they're going to regulate uh churches in Kenya or religious groups but now we're talking about churches now that we feel if the government goes that way they won't know how to regulate we don't even know what criteria they would use uh and and we that has caused us in the reformed Circle wanting to be more united and very fast we really are wanting a way of forming our own Association so if there is to be some form of Regulation then we are doing it ourselves rather than some charismatic you know Pope or not pop um Apostle to to regulate a reformed group they wouldn't really know what they're doing and and we would definitely find it very hard so we are seeking to unite so uh at the moment uh the the reformed group as such we we just want to be United and hopefully when we do that then we can also help our people to know when we say we're reformed what do we mean uh what confession do we use um and things like that Joanne yes please come from the education center and they and they come they choose to follow the lord and take the step of baptism and then after the four years they've spread out is there any way of keeping in contact with any of those or do you have some sort of assistance set up so that because that may be some of your fertile ground yes now a pasta friend once uh scolded me I should maybe I should use that way but he helped me because I was lamenting uh saying oh you know after four or five years uh we we are so sad to see uh good people just leave us and and he said oh so naftali you want to build your own Empire in eldoret and and I thought about that I said naturally I'm not after an Empire I just want to serve the Lord and but he helped me because what the Lord is pleased to do is that four years we are with these people we we teach them God's word they they the Lord saves them they join their membership and then they go away thankfully majority of them I think all of them go to good churches you know in Nairobi in the city of kisumu so we are not afraid they kind of don't just live and and go to you know those which are not true churches so thankfully they are being cared for yes and in that sense yes we keep contact with them yes so great presentation Fellowship Church Jeremy cables on Wednesday night and then he'll be in Armstrong Thursday night and then Surry on Sunday so he's got quite a busy schedule so I'll close in prayer and then we'll head to the Lord Our God we thank you for our brother we thank you for his faithful Ministry there in eldoret we thank you for the congregation we pray for your Rich blessings upon them we ask God in heaven that you will just continue to use them to shine the light of the Gospel in that very meaning Community we pray for your blessing upon that Nation as a whole that there's a majority that would profess to be Christians and yet not having the essence of True Religion we pray that your gospel would go forth throughout that Nation conquering and to conquer and we pray this