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CTF 2025: What Are the Modern Day Issues With the Trinity?

Unknown · 2025-01-09 · 788 words · 6 min

[Music] I think we're good with that okay um in terms of the positive that we're teaching about classical theism great as per confession what are a couple sort of modern issues that we will see come up contract in Chapter 2 where current guys have gone away from the Orthodox understanding mhm well I think I think one of the big ones is going to be the equality of the son with the father um you know going back to 2016 when there seemed to be a little bit of an explosion with regards to the Eternal subordination of the Sun or the Eternal functional subordination of the Sun or eternal relationships of authority and submission uh I think that will be one of the the modern departures from historic truth that that will be treated uh simply and we sing it in the hymn l in honor to the father l in honor to the son l in honor to the spirit ever three and Ever One um and the old hymn used to have the lyrics consubstantial co-eternal while unending ages run and the the simple truth and the Glorious truth is that the Eternal son the eternally begotten son of the father is equal with the father that there is no degration in the Trinity there is no hierarchy in the Trinity um and so that that will certainly come up because it's that error has always been with us and uh it seems that it will continue to be with us until Christ comes again and so it's important that we educate our people in the churches and these conferences again these conferences don't replace church but they're a good Avenue to bring up the the the truths of the Bible and to to Target and inoculate ourselves against these modern errors and and arm us with the Blessed truth um against such departures from it yeah and I would say that that historically I mean there's a lot of erors and a lot of heresies involved in the Trinity and in Chris ology I would say two of the primary ones or the overarching ones would be aryanism which has a problem with the unity of the Divine Essence and then sabellianism which has a a problem with the tri-unity of persons so those always raise their heads in every generation it seems and again you could fill you know a book with the various departures but those seem to be kind of you know recurring challenges to the doctrine of the Trinity as espoused in scripture and formulated in the Creeds and confessions mhm yeah and I think when when paragraph 3 of chapter 2 is treated as well will there there will probably be something of a discussion on social trinitarianism uh which seems to be uh closer to tritheism than than actual biblical trinitarianism because it does separate the persons uh in in a particular sense you know saying that they're more of a that the Trinity is more of a community uh than it is the one God who eternally exists as father son and and holy spirit there the connected error to that is the the the assertion that the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit have separate wills and separate operations um and um our our confession very uh very carefully and and actually our second London Baptist confession the paragraph 3 is is is much more robust than we have the advantage of time mind you mind you because we came after the congregationalists and before them the Presbyterians but it's a very robust chapter that articulates in fact in a very trinitarian way the Oneness of God the threeness of persons the Oneness of God the threeness the Oneness and the the thus it it reiterates it and it establishes against such modern errors like social trinitarianism or uh tritheism which we we probably don't see as much as the aryanism and the sabellianism that that Jim talked about but but certainly the upholding of the one will and the one operation of God that the persons aren't you know acting in such a manner where the the father does 33 and 13% the son the same the spirit the same but much rather that all the the the outward acts of God are the the acts of the one and only living and true God who eternally exists as Father Son and Holy Spirit and as we seen in our Saturday morning studies I think it was Barrett's book simply Trinity all the social trinitarian models produce leftism and communism so practically it's a bad way to go yeah very you're good