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Ask FGBC #29: How will we see the Trinity in Heaven?

Jim Butler · 2024-11-24 · 553 words · 3 min

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In the new heavens and new earth, believers will see the glorified Christ in his genuine human nature and know the Father and Spirit through him, because God remains immutable spirit while redeemed humanity remains genuinely human, and all experience of God is irreducibly Trinitarian.

How will believers see and interact with the three persons of the Trinity in the new heavens and new earth? This question-and-answer episode wrestles with the beatific vision — the blessed sight of God in glory — and what kind of sensible or cognitive interaction redeemed humanity might have with Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in eternity. The discussion grounds its answer in the immutability of God (who does not cease to be spirit), the genuine humanity of the glorified Christ (whose wounds are healed but whose human nature persists), and the Trinitarian structure of all Christian experience, including prayer. The takeaway is that beholding the Lamb in the new earth is not abstract: it is a physical, glorified, sin-free existence in the presence of the God who cannot change.

Key quotes

We're never going to be able to exhaust the infinite beauty and infinite majesty of God. And we're never going to be able to comprehend his essence.
It's not like we're seeing a sheep or a physical lamb, right? This is Jesus, the man in his flesh or human nature. See the holes in his hands, et cetera. But he's healed and whole and glorified.
It's a physical place for physical people, right? So there's continuity, but there's continuity, like it's sin is gone, it's restored creation.

Applications

  1. Rest in the fact that you will never exhaust the infinite beauty of God — eternity is not a static state but an endless exploration of his majesty.
  2. Pray consciously in Trinitarian terms: to the Father, through the Son, and in the Spirit.
  3. Look forward to the new heavens and new earth as a real, physical, glorified existence — not a disembodied spiritual state.

Questions this sermon answers

Will we actually see God the Father and the Holy Spirit in heaven?

Because God is spirit and cannot change, we will not see the Father or the Spirit in a physical sense; we will see the glorified Christ in his human nature, and through him the Father is made known, since 'whoever has seen me has seen the Father.'

What is the beatific vision?

The blessed sight of God in glory — grounded in 1 John 3:2, which promises that we shall see Jesus as he is and be made like him.

Will humans still be physical in the new heavens and new earth?

Yes; the new creation is a physical place for physical people, with genuine bodily continuity, freed from sin, weariness, and death.

Is our experience of God always Trinitarian?

Yes — even prayer is Trinitarian: we cry out to the Father, through the Son, and in the Spirit, a pattern the speaker draws from Galatians 4:4-6.

Question: Seeing the Trinity in Heaven

Okay, this is a long question. I'll just summarize it with the title. How will we see the Trinity in heaven? I understand that God is spirit, that he's invisible. that we will see his face and we will behold the Lamb.

But will we see the three persons of the Trinity in heaven, or will we only see Jesus and he will reveal to us the Father and the Spirit in some way?" And then the person, kind of like the next day, sent a follow-up. I posed a question about our interaction with the Trinity in eternity a few days ago. I would like to specify my question. What kind of sensible interaction might we have with the Trinity in eternity to come and the new heavens and new earth?

Will it be visible or will we simply be aware, cognitively or by faith, of the Father and the Spirit without any visible manifestations of them? Jesus' words of whoever has seen me has seen the Father come to mind. What little I know about this tough question. I feel like the person answered it as they were wrestling through it.

It does sound that way. Yeah, it really does. Well, especially when you consider the fact that

God's Immutability and Human Nature

God is spirit. He doesn't stop being God when we get to heaven, and we don't stop being man when we get to heaven. And so, you know, there's, you know, we're never going to be able to exhaust the infinite beauty and infinite majesty of God. And we're never going to be able to comprehend his essence.

But I think, you know,

Seeing Jesus as He Is

first John three does speak about seeing Jesus as he is, and we shall be like him. And I think as the questioner says, you know, we've seen Jesus, we've seen the father, and reality,

The Trinitarian Shape of All Experience

everything we do is Trinitarian. Even when we pray, it's Trinitarian. We see this in, in, you know, Galatians chapter four, God sent forth his son. and then born of a woman, born under the law, but then also we have the spirit of adoption who's been poured out in our hearts and we cry out to God. So we cry out to the Father through the Son and in the Spirit.

And certainly there are a lot of things I don't think I understand about the beatific vision, the blessed vision. I'd like to read more on that to be sure, but

The Beatific Vision and Glorified Humanity

certainly seeing Jesus as he is, is clear in 1 John 3. Certainly the fact that God's not gonna change because he cannot change is clear and the fact that we will still be humans is very clear as well but we will certainly not be weighed down by sin, weighed down by the weariness of this world and we'll get to praise our God world without end. and seeing the lamb, it's not like we're seeing a sheep or a physical lamb, right? This is Jesus, the man in his flesh or human nature. See the holes in his hands, et cetera.

But he's healed and whole and glorified, yeah. And that's the new heaven, the new earth. It's a physical place for physical people, right? So there's continuity, but there's continuity, like it's sin is gone, it's restored creation, yeah.

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Theological terms

  • Beatific Vision×2
  • Divine Immutability×2
  • Glorified Humanity
  • Hypostatic Union
  • Trinitarian Prayer