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The Use of the 2nd London Confession

Jim Butler · 2025-03-16 · 9,365 words · 59 min

Well, last time Cam gave us a 
good overview of sort of the historical background concerning 
our Confession, so I wanted to basically do a part two of that 
theme and give you the rationale for the Church's use of the Second 
London Confession. Not just our Church, as we have 
adopted it and we do use it, but why I think it's a wise thing 
for churches to be confessional. So I want to just give us these 
heads, and then we'll cover them in more detail. So the church's 
use of the confession. First, to define the doctrine 
of the church. Secondly, to defend the doctrine 
of the church. Third, to discriminate with reference 
to the doctrine of the church. Four, to discipline for departures 
from the doctrine of the church. Five, to distinguish from matters 
of Christian liberty. And then finally, to develop 
an appreciation for the history of the Church. So I'm going to 
just jump right into it first with the Church's use of the 
Confession. First of all, the biblical rationale. 
You can turn to 1 Timothy 3, just a couple of pertinent passages 
with reference to the use of a good confession of faith to 
define the doctrine of the Church. In 1 Timothy 3, After the giving of the qualifications 
for elders and deacons, the Apostle Paul in 3.14 says, These things 
I write to you, and these things I take everything that has preceded 
and everything that will follow this brief statement. These things 
I write to you, though I hope to come to you shortly. But if 
I am delayed, I write so that you may know how you ought to 
conduct yourself in the house of God. Certainly a passage that 
grounds us in the regulative principle of worship There is 
a particular conduct that is worthy in the house of God. That 
conduct is defined by God. It's not given to us to try and 
figure out. So this oughtness isn't suggestive, 
but it's a divine necessity. If I am delayed, I write so that 
you may know how you ought to conduct yourself in the house 
of God, and then he goes on to further describe that house of 
God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground 
of the truth. And it's important for us to 
see that emphasis. It's the pillar and the ground 
of the truth. Not of entertainment, not of group therapy, not of 
some social construct, but it's the pillar and ground of the 
truth. And then we have what is a confession in the early 
church. Without controversy, great is 
the mystery of godliness, or by common confession. And it's 
no surprise that it focuses upon the Lord Jesus Christ. God was 
manifested in the flesh, justified in the spirit, seen by angels, 
preached among the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received 
up in glory. So the church had a common confession, 
and it was certainly Christocentric, at least here in 1 Timothy 3. 
You can go to 2 Timothy 1. Again, to define the doctrine 
of the church, a confession of faith is very helpful. Notice 
in 2 Timothy 1 at verse 13. Hold fast the pattern of sound 
words which you have heard from me in faith and love which are 
in Christ Jesus. That good thing which was committed 
to you, keep by the Holy Spirit who dwells in us. So confessions 
of faith are helpful in that regard to help us to retain the 
pattern or hold the pattern of sound words and to keep those 
things that have been committed to us. So we've got not only 
the written revelation of God in the Old and New Testaments, 
but we have theology subsequent to the closed canon where good 
gifts of Christ have blessed us by teaching us well the Word 
of God, and then summarizing much of that teaching in the 
creeds and the confessions that the Church has used. Notice in 
1 Timothy chapter 5 as well. 1 Timothy chapter 5, specifically 
at verse 17, while not directly connected, I think there is a 
principle here that deserves our consideration. He says, let 
the elders who rule well be counted worthy of double honor, especially 
those who labor in the word and doctrine. All of us would agree 
that to labor in the word means to study the scriptures, to exegete 
properly the scriptures, to prepare sermons based on those scriptures, 
and then preach those scriptures. But notice as well, doctrine. 
God assumes, God presupposes, God mandates that the church 
will take the written data of revealed revelation and then 
theologize with it, make connections with it, draw out implications 
from it such that we can indeed instruct the people of God. And 
creeds and confessions serve as a great help to define the 
doctrine of the church. In the epistle to the reader 
that we read with Cam the last time we met, they say, quote, 
it is now many years since divers of us, with other sober Christians 
then living and walking in the way of the Lord that we profess, 
did conceive ourselves to be under a necessity of publishing 
a confession of our faith for the information and satisfaction 
of those that did not thoroughly understand what our principles 
were or had entertained prejudices against our profession. by reason 
of the strange representation of them by some men of note who 
had taken very wrong measures and accordingly led others into 
misapprehensions of us and them. And this was first put forth 
in about the year 1643. So they use the mechanism of 
a confession of faith to define what it is that they believe 
this particular Baptist. And as Cam led that study, we 
see that in large part, it was to show their solidarity with 
Presbyterians and Independents. It wasn't to show how different 
they were, but how similar they were. They had no itch to clog 
religion with new words. So along the way, they did make 
their differences known by way of definition in that confessional 
summary. And then in terms of practice, 
practically, if we don't use a confession of faith, we run 
or pray to the broadest sort of sympathies to be entertained 
in the life of the church. A Baptist, a former Baptist, 
I'm not even convinced he was a 1689 or a particular Baptist, 
but B.H. Carroll made this observation. 
He said, a church with a little creed is a church with a little 
life. He's right. A church with a little 
creed is a church with a little life. The more divine doctrines 
a church can agree on, the greater its power and the wider its usefulness. The fewer its articles of faith, 
the fewer its bonds of union and compactness. The modern cry, 
less creed and more liberty, is a degeneration from the vertebrate 
to the jellyfish and means less unity and less morality and it 
means more heresy. Definitive truth does not create 
heresy, it only exposes and corrects. Shut off the creed and the Christian 
world would fill up with heresy, unsuspected and uncorrected, 
but nonetheless deadly. I think Carol's spot on with 
that observation. So in the first place, the use 
of a confession is helpful to define the doctrine of the church. Secondly, to defend the doctrine 
of the church. You can turn to 1 Peter 3. to 
defend the doctrine of the church, 1 Peter chapter 3, specifically 
at verse 15. But sanctify the Lord God in 
your hearts and always be ready to give a defense I think this 
is instructive because it's not addressed specifically to the 
pastors or the seminary professors or to the deacons or to the guys 
in the church that really like to read theology. It's addressed 
to everybody. We need to be ready as the apostle 
commends here. But sanctify the Lord God in 
your hearts and always be ready to give a defense to everyone 
who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you with meekness 
and fear. So we need to always be ready. 
Now, that doesn't mean we're all going to be at the level 
of those doctors and seminary professors and those men that 
are skilled beyond us, but we need to be ready to give a defense 
for the hope that is within us with meekness and fear. And then, 
of course, in Jude's epistle, a passage that always gets invoked 
when we discuss such things, Jude 3. Beloved, while I was 
very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, 
I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend 
earnestly. So it's not just to contend, 
but to contend earnestly. There ought to be some vehemence, 
some diligence, and some fire in your bones when it comes to 
this. to contend earnestly, notice, for the faith, not your faith, 
not your subjective appropriation of the truth of the gospel, but 
the objective content of propositional revelation. You need to contend 
earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to 
the saints. So we've got that written revelation 
given us in the Old and New Testaments, and then the creeds and the confessions 
come and define and summarize for us that faith. And so we 
need to be those who contend for it. Go back to Philippians 
chapter 1, a passage that I think highlights the practicality in 
terms of this defense of doctrine. Philippians chapter 1, specifically 
at verse 27. Only let your conduct be worthy 
of the gospel of Christ, so that whether I come and see you or 
am absent, I may hear of your affairs, that you stand fast 
in one spirit, with one mind, striving together for the faith 
of the gospel." There's an external application in terms of the adversaries. Notice in verse 28, "...and not 
in any way terrified by your adversaries, which is to them 
a proof of perdition, but to you of salvation, and that from 
God." So we need to strive together, we need to hold fast, and a great 
help to that are the creeds and the confessions that the Church 
has given us. The confession is a helpful tool 
for believers with reference to a defense of the Christian 
faith. Robert Paul Martin says it is a useful tool for discriminating 
truth from error and for presenting in a small compass the central 
doctrines of the Bible in their integrity and due proportions. That's from a very helpful by 
Dr. Martin called The Legitimacy 
and Use of Confessions. It's in Waldron's exposition 
of the 1689 Confession. I'm sure as well you can find 
it online. Robert Martin died several years 
ago. He was the pastor in Tacoma, 
or Setac, good godly man. So to define the doctrine of 
the Church, second, to defend the doctrine of the Church, and 
then third, to discriminate with reference to the doctrine of 
the Church, both for membership and for officers. And I should 
make a qualification here and now. If somebody wants to join 
our Church and they do not see everything the same way that 
we do, I would not bar them from membership. I would, however, 
warn them, not warn in a vicious way with fangs and teeth and 
grimaces and all that, But I would tell them that more than likely, 
if let's say, for instance, they were dispensational, they're 
not going to be happy with a series on the Ten Commandments. That's 
going to provoke them to wrath, at least to some degree or other. 
If somebody's an Armenian, they're not going to like a strong emphasis 
on sovereign grace or predestination or election. They're just not 
probably going to ultimately be happy here. But if somebody 
said, look, I understand the differences. This is the best 
game in town in terms of what I'm looking for. I would then 
just ask them, well, please don't hold Bible studies contrary to 
our confession of faith. If we're meeting on a Wednesday 
night, to study the Confession, don't have an alternate Bible 
study on a Wednesday night to debunk the Confession. So I want 
to make sure everybody knows, it's not that you have to dot 
every I and cross every T to be a member of our church. And 
typically in a membership process, when somebody comes to us that 
has no Reformed doctrine in their background, really little to 
no understanding with reference to the Confession of Faith, I 
usually say that we as a church hold to full or strict subscription. That means we believe it, not 
insofar as it is biblical, but because it is biblical. And that's 
our position here. So that's what kind of sets the 
parameters and the guardrails in terms of the doctrine and 
teaching of the church. And if they're happy with that, then 
the expectation is that they'll learn that stuff, right? Make 
disciples, baptize disciples, and then teach those disciples 
to observe all things that I have commanded you." So that's respecting 
this great commission. So it's not just the making of 
them, it's not just the baptizing of them, but it's also the instruction 
of them. So to expect everybody to be 
sufficiently instructed in the 1689 before they can become members 
of the Church seems to me to be a stretch. So practically, 
that's why we do what we do. But with reference to church 
membership, Dr. Martin again says the Bible envisages 
the local church not as a union of those who have agreed to differ, 
but as a body marked by peace and unity. I've had this conversation 
with people that have been in churches where perhaps there's 
many people that are unsaved in that church, and they have 
a concern, and rightly so, we should have a concern with unsaved 
people in a church, but they see it as their mission to evangelize 
that church. I'm sorry, but that's not the 
primary emphasis in church, is to evangelize the guy in the 
pew. Hopefully the church, the pulpit, 
is evangelizing everybody week in and week out, but you're there 
to worship. And you're there to praise, and 
you're there to glorify, and you're there to express that 
unity and that camaraderie that you have in the faith. And again, 
if you have that as your mindset and mission, I'm not going to 
say you're reprobate and you're going to hell, but it does seem 
to be an odd emphasis that we're at church to evangelize versus 
worship, praise, and glorify. So the Great Commission demands 
that local churches instruct Christ's sheep of those things 
He has commanded. And the Confession serves as 
a helpful means to that end. It really does do that service 
in defining for us Christian doctrine. The Apostle demands 
that such instruction be truthful and produce unity. Turn over 
to Ephesians chapter 4. Ephesians chapter 4. Notice beginning 
in verse 11. He himself gave some to be apostles, 
some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers. 
So the ascended Christ was ascended on high, he led captivity captive, 
and he gave gifts to men. In this context, the gifts are 
not tongues, the gifts are not helps, The gifts are not prophesying, 
the gifts are men. Men qualified by God, recognized 
by the church, to be used in the church for the three-fold 
purpose that is expressed in verse 12. Notice, this is what 
the gifts given by Christ are supposed to do. For the equipping 
of the saints, for the work of ministry, for the edifying of 
the body of Christ. That's the purpose of gospel 
ministers, to equip the saints, to engage in the work of ministry, 
and to seek the edification of the body of Christ. Notice in 
verse 13, till we all come to the unity of the faith and of 
the knowledge of the Son of God. So a confession of faith helps 
us in that endeavor to come to the unity of the faith. If you 
are a dispensational Arminian, there are churches that you would 
probably be more happy at, and there would be churches that 
there'd be more solidarity and more union among. That's up to 
you, and that's probably where you're going to be the happiest. 
But this unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of 
God to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the 
fullness of Christ, that we should no longer be children tossed 
to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine by 
the trickery of men in the cunning craftiness of deceitful blotting. 
But speaking the truth in love may grow up in all things, and 
to him who is the head, Christ, from whom the whole body, joined 
and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to 
the effective working by which every part does its share, causes 
growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love. The practice 
of this kind of discrimination, it's not ethnic, it's not racial, 
it's not anything other than doctrinal, is not to starve the 
hungry, but it is to feed the sheep and promote unity. Andrew 
Fuller said, the object of articles of faith is to keep at a distance, 
not those who are weak in the faith, but such as are its avowed 
enemies. So the purpose of a good doctrinal 
confession isn't to keep at bay the weak, but it's rather to 
keep at bay the wolf. And I think Fuller's right there 
when it comes to this specific issue. But with reference to 
discrimination in terms of church membership, we also must discriminate 
in terms of church officers. If we are to select officers 
in the context of the local church, the confession of faith gets 
us in the ballpark as to what the man believes. Jehovah's Witnesses 
believe the Bible. Mormons believe the Bible. Muslims 
believe the Bible. There's atheists out there that 
say, you know what? Historically, I got no beef with 
it. I mean, there might be the odd 
one here or there. But the expression or confession, I believe the 
Bible, that's not really that powerful. Wouldn't it be nice 
if we had a summary statement that defined for us Christian 
doctrine by which we could vet men that have aspirations for 
eldership and to teach in the life of the church? The qualifications 
of elders in 1 Timothy 3, 2, necessitates that they be able 
or apt to teach. That's what distinguishes the 
elder from the deacon. The deacon in his list of qualifications 
is very similar to the elder in terms of virtue and grace 
and the way that he lives his life, but the deacon is not supposed 
to teach or he's not called upon by nature, essentially, to be 
a teacher or a preacher. He is to hold fast the mystery 
of the faith. He is to hold fast those truths. 
But the elder must be able to teach. And so for him to say, 
well, I believe the Bible, well, the greatest heretics in the 
history of the church have believed the Bible, admittedly, or supposedly, 
or professedly. But this is a wonderful summary 
statement of Christian doctrine. As well, Titus 1.9. You can turn 
to Titus 1. Titus 1, 5 to 9, the qualifications 
for elders, and in Titus 1, 9, holding fast the faithful word 
as he has been taught that he may be able by sound doctrine 
both to exhort and convict those who contradict. I take that as 
a sort of a twofold reference. He holds the sound doctrine, 
one, to exhort those people that believe the truth, those people 
that are on board, those people that subscribe to a good confession, 
but as well, secondly, to convict those who contradict. It's not 
only enough to tell people what we believe, we need to distinguish 
with what we don't believe. We not only need to understand 
Orthodox Trinitarianism, for instance, but we need to understand, 
at least to a degree, departures from that Trinitarianism so that 
we can better warn the people of God. Turn to 1 Timothy chapter 
4. 1 Timothy chapter 4. Again, the emphasis here, discriminate 
with reference to the doctrine of the church, with reference 
to officers in the church. Notice in 1 Timothy chapter 4 
at verse 6, "...if you instruct the brethren in these things, 
you will be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished in the 
words of faith and of the good doctrine which you have carefully 
followed. But reject profane and old wives' fables, and exercise 
yourself toward godliness." Creeds and confessions help us to reject 
profane and old wives' fables. The creeds and the confessions 
protect us from Arianism, from Sabellianism, from Nestorianism, 
from all of the isms that have raised up in opposition against 
Yahweh and His Christ. Verse 8, for bodily exercise 
profits a little, but godliness is profitable for all things, 
having promise of a life that now is and of that which is to 
come. This is a faithful saying and 
worthy of all acceptance. For to this end we both labor 
and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who 
is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe. These things 
command and teach. Let no one despise your youth, 
but be an example to the believers in word and conduct and love 
and spirit and faith and purity. Till I come, give attention to 
reading." I don't think he means Timothy's private reading. He 
means Timothy's public reading of the scriptures in the church. 
Not only to reading, but also to exhortation from that reading, 
and to doctrine. Articulate theology from that 
reading. Do not neglect the gift that 
is in you, which was given to you by prophecy with the laying 
on of the hands of the eldership. Meditate on these things. Give 
yourself entirely to that, that your progress may be evident 
to all. That's the kind of guys we want for gospel ministry. 
Not the guy that's got his latte in one hand and his hand in the 
other pocket, and he's up there just musing in some emotional 
way about who Jesus is. Notice in verse 16, Brethren, if the church is to 
be blamed today for not having clearly articulated doctrinal 
positions, much of that blame lays in the ministry. If they 
have not successfully and effectively taught the truth, then yeah, 
if the blind lead the blind, both fall into the ditch. The 
blind being led is still culpable and still responsible. But nevertheless, 
the blind that are leading the blind, It's an unfortunate reality 
that there's people in the church, professing church, that have 
grown up in the church that have very, very little understanding 
of any Christian doctrine whatsoever. Again, it's not probably nice 
to blame other guys, but hey, if the shoe fits, wear it. Remember 
years ago when I did go to the Chilliwack Ministerial, I remember 
they had this time where they were going to have the gray beards 
or the gray heads to come and instruct us younger guys. And 
I thought to myself, these gray hairs and these gray beards are 
the guys that kind of got us into this mess where people don't 
have a clue about Christian doctrine. What were they doing in the 20th 
century? What were they teaching? I mean, 
they jumped on board with all of this garbage, and yet the 
people of God have very little understanding of Christian doctrine. 
Now, if the man is preaching faithfully, and he is laboring 
in the word and doctrine, and people still aren't getting it, 
well, that's on them at that point. It's the watchman passages 
with reference to the prophet Ezekiel. If you don't warn them, 
I will require blood from your hands. But if you do warn them, 
Ezekiel, then you're off the hook, basically. Paul invokes 
that principle before the elders in Acts chapter 20, my hands 
are clean. In other words, I have not shunned 
to declare to you the whole counsel of God. And so with reference 
to church eldership, we need faithful men who not only believe 
the Bible, but believe the Bible in the way it's supposed to be 
believed. Notice in 2 Timothy 2. 2 Timothy 
2 at verse 1. You therefore, my son, be strong 
in the grace that is in Christ Jesus. And the things that you 
have heard from me among many witnesses, commit these to faithful 
men who will be able to teach others also. You see, Paul sets 
forth the principle, the responsibility for the church the church which 
is the pillar and ground of the truth, to be able to identify 
her guys, to be able to make sure her guys are fit and qualified, 
and then to make sure those guys are functioning in the capacity 
for which Jesus purposed them. Commit these to faithful men 
who will be able to teach others also. Notice in verse 15, be 
diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who 
does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of 
truth. Brethren, notice what he doesn't say. Be diligent to 
present yourself approved to your hearers. Be diligent to 
present yourself approved to this God-hating world. No, he says to be approved to 
God. Have a clear conscience, void 
of offense toward God relative to your pastoral ministry. And 
if you can read through 1 and 2 Timothy and Titus and see an 
emphasis on tongues and prophesying, you are completely missing the 
point. These are the last epistles or the latter epistles of the 
Apostle Paul. Tongues are never mentioned. 
Prophecies are never mentioned. What is mentioned? Sound doctrine. 
Tongues and prophesying were revelatory gifts. The idea is 
that once those revelatory gifts have been codified in the canon 
of the New Testament, then the purpose of those apt to teach 
is not to seek God for tongues and prophesying, but to proclaim 
the sound doctrine that has been delivered once for all. That's 
the emphasis of the Apostle Paul. Notice as well in 2 Timothy 4, 
2. Preach the Word. Be ready in season and out of 
season. Convince, rebuke, exhort with 
all longsuffering and teaching. Well, how do we know he's going 
to preach the Word properly? Well, because he says he believes 
the Bible. Yeah, but so do Jehovah's Witnesses and so do Mormons. 
What does he believe the Bible teaches? Well, this is a very 
helpful summary of what the Bible teaches, and if the guy is not 
fit with reference to that, then we're not going to use him. Dr. Martin, again, says on 1 John 
4, 1 and 2 John 10, We cannot obey these admonitions simply 
by receiving the confession that a man believes the Bible. We 
must know what he believes the Bible teaches on the great issues. 
A confession of faith makes it relatively simple for the church 
to inquire about a man's doctrinal soundness over the broad field 
of biblical truth. Without a confession of faith, 
the church's evaluation of its ministers is haphazard and shallow 
at best, and the church will be in great danger of laying 
hands on novices and heretics all because it does not measure 
candidates for the ministry by a broad and deep standard. It 
just seems so simple to me. Why would we not use the confession 
of faith to test men who want to preach doctrine that is consistent 
with that confession of faith? Fourth, to discipline for departures 
from the doctrine of the church. Again, in the church, there's 
going to be disagreements. It's going to be disagreements. 
I always invoke eschatology. It probably irritates people. 
In fact, I said something last week that most likely was very 
inflammatory, that even if you're premillennial, you can go to 
heaven. I need to watch that kind of stuff, because I realize 
it could be taken in a very offensive way. But I mean it in the nicest 
possible way. If people know my patron saint 
is John Gill, and he was a premillennialist, so I suspect that we'll sit at 
the marriage supper of the Lamb together, hopefully. I hope I 
get that close to that faithful and godly man. But you can be 
wrong, and I'm still thinking premillennialism here, sorry. 
You can be disagreeable in certain things. But in the things most 
surely believed among us, if there are departures from the 
faith that was once for all delivered to the saints, that can in fact 
be a disciplinable offense. You know, you hear about pastors 
a lot falling because they looked at internet porn, or they engaged 
in adultery, or they had some inappropriate relationship. I 
don't ever hear pastors being thrown out because they deny 
the Trinity. And I think there are out there 
those who deny the Trinity, or those who believe that Jesus 
is, you know, just a little bit better than men and angels. Somehow 
we think that internet porn is a whole lot worse than internet 
heresy. I'm not suggesting that either 
are good to look at or frequent, but internet heresy is bad. And 
I think that's a big problem today. I think that the church 
is the pillar and the ground of the truth. Now I'm not suggesting 
that everybody on the internet is necessarily a heretic, but 
I am suggesting that it's much more likely you're gonna be led 
astray on YouTube than in a good church that uses a confession 
of faith. I just believe that in my core being. Every fiber 
of my being speaks to that. So there are disciplinable offenses 
when it comes to heretical positions. Listen to Samuel Miller. Whenever 
a group of men began to slide with respect to orthodoxy, they 
generally attempted to break, if not to conceal, their fall 
by declaiming against creeds and confessions. It's usually 
the first step. He says, men are seldom opposed 
to creeds until creeds have become opposed to them. That's gold, 
that's great. Listen to W.G.T. Shedd. Heresy is not so great 
a sin as dishonesty. Now, he's not saying heresy's 
okay. But he says, heresy is not so 
great a sin as dishonesty. There may be honest heresy, Again, 
this sounds a bit paradoxical, but I think what he's doing is 
he's suggesting that those who say I subscribe to this while 
their hands are behind their backs and their fingers are crossed 
are worse than an outright heretic. Right? The man who's in a pulpit 
under false pretenses that he imbibes a certain system of doctrinal 
truth and undermines that truth, that man is a bigger threat. He says, there may be honest 
heresy but not honest dishonesty. The heretic who acknowledges 
that he is such is better than the man who pretends to be orthodox 
while subscribing to a creed which he dislikes and which he 
saps under pretense of improving it and adapting it to the times. The honest heretic leaves the 
church with which he no longer agrees. but the insincere subscriber 
remains within it in order to carry out his master plan of 
demoralization. That is a bigger threat in my 
estimation. The guy who says he subscribes 
but suddenly departs or even in a big way departs is more 
dangerous than the old lady that lives over here that was brought 
up as a Jehovah's Witness that has only ever read Jehovah's 
Witness literature and in her heart of hearts honestly believes 
that that's true. I am far more concerned about 
the guy who says yes to the Second London, or yes to the Westminster, 
or yes to the Savoy, or yes to the Three Forms of Unity, and 
undermines it through his preaching. He's a bigger threat than the 
old lady across the street. Fifth, to distinguish matters 
of Christian liberty. If you're familiar at all with 
the Confession of Faith, it begins in chapter 1 with the Holy Scriptures 
and ends in chapter 32 on eschatology. Guess what you don't find in 
chapters 2 to 31? All kinds of Christian liberty 
questions and issues. Right? Do you think that the 
divines actually meant what they said in chapter 21? I do. Chapter 21, Christian liberty 
and liberty of conscience. 21-2, God alone is Lord of the 
conscience and hath left it free from the doctrines and commandments 
of men which are in anything contrary to his word or not contained 
in it. In other words, when it comes 
to the things revealed by Second London Confession, by Westminster, 
by Savoy, by the Three Forms of Unity, and other faithful 
creeds and confessions, those are things that Christians must 
believe in terms of a right relationship with their God and a right appropriation 
of scriptural teaching. We can disagree on alcohol. not on the abuse of it, it's 
just always wrong to abuse, but on the use of it. Some in their 
mind say it can never be used, others in their mind say yes 
it can be moderately. Those are liberty of conscience 
issues that churches should not divide over. Bible translations, 
another thing I probably should stop doing is picking on the 
ESV. But old habits die hard. I would never condemn anybody 
for using the ESV. If you want to use the ESV and 
you learn about Jesus, I think there's a couple of problematic 
sections in it in terms of interpretation or translation. But I believe 
that you can read it and get saved and happily go to heaven. 
We shouldn't divide over that. The King James only controversy. Amazing division over an English 
translation. Wow, how did that ever happen? I like the King James. I like 
the King James tradition. I've got a King James Bible verse 
up on my wall in my gym. I just love the language. But 
to divide from the blood-bought children of God over it? The 
confession of faith keeps us from that kind of division over 
matters that are not necessary or essential with reference to 
our right relationship to God and our appropriation of His 
Word. So the confession is very helpful in that regard. And I've 
always been helped by what the confession does not address. If it's not in the confession, 
it's probably not worth fighting over. If it's not in the confession, 
it's probably not worth dividing over. Well, we're gonna divide 
over the King James only. Go ahead, and then there's gonna 
be something else that you then divide over. It's a never nonstop 
situation. So the confession, I think, is 
helpful here. We do not exclude people from 
the communion of the saints over matters that are indifferent 
Why would we do that? Why would we say, well, your 
view on this tertiary thing doesn't align with my view, so I don't 
want to have any communion or fellowship with you. You know 
who's going to be in your church? You. That's it. That's it, because we all have 
different preferences, we all have different views on matters 
of Christian liberty, and we shouldn't castigate somebody 
because they're in a different place than us. How does Paul 
deal with it in Romans chapter 14? He acknowledges the two excesses 
on either part. The stronger brother has the 
potential and the tendency and the predilection to look down 
on his weaker brother and say, you need to knuckle under, you 
need to suck it up, and you need to get strong. Right? But what 
is the weaker's brother proclivity? To judge the stronger brother. 
Oh, look at him with his steak. Oh, look at him with his beer. 
That is wrong. And how does Paul bring it to 
bear upon the believers? We're all gonna stand before 
Christ and give an account of the things that we've done. It's 
to your own Lord or to your own master. We're not each other's 
lords and masters. Again, if you see somebody committing 
adultery, stop them, tell them it's wrong, don't do it. But 
if somebody disagrees with you or has a different view with 
reference to Christian liberty, and you feel the incessant need 
to correct everybody, you've got problems. And the confession, 
I think, would substantiate that, at least by way of not addressing 
every jot and tittle. You know, Christmas. That was 
my first foray into the battlefield in Chilliwack. I mean, Christmas, 
right? I didn't know. I was the guy 
that bought the used car, drove the car off the lot, and all 
four wheels dropped off. Got here in June, I'm ready to 
do it. And by December, I'm like, what 
is happening here? What's gone wrong here? I'm such a nice guy. I don't 
think I ever said that. It was bizarre. It has been bizarre. Are we being taped or live feeded 
or anything? Oh, no. Oh, boy. We're going 
to have to change that. Anyways, Christian liberty, more 
often than not, rather, not Christian liberty. Two things going on 
in chapter 21. Christian liberty is our freedom 
from the curse of the law, our freedom from the damage of sin, 
our bondage of sin, our freedom from God's wrath and fury and 
curse, and our freedom unto the Lord Jesus Christ. Liberty of 
conscience is when they speak concerning God alone is Lord 
of the conscience. In other words, the civil state 
doesn't have the right to bind your conscience contrary to the 
word of God. But neither does any ecclesiastical institution 
have the right to do that either. Obviously, their focus or their 
crosshairs was the civil state in Rome. You don't have the right 
to bind people's consciences to waving incense in public worship 
before the stations of the cross. That's not scriptural. That's 
not biblical. You can't bind my conscience that way. But neither 
can the civil state bind my conscience to things that are contrary to 
the will and word of God. And so this is a very helpful 
sort of point in my mind. It's to protect us from that 
division or that wreckage that comes when we elevate our preferences 
to the level of thus saith the Lord. It's not right, brethren. It's just not right. And then 
I would suggest finally to develop an appreciation for the history 
of the church. To develop an appreciation for 
the history of the church. The Reformation The Protestant 
Reformation dealt with primarily authority, soteriology, and ecclesiology. I always tell our guys, us guys, 
I've said it probably here before, they didn't reform theology proper 
or Christology. They didn't rework the whole 
doctrine of the Trinity. They didn't say, okay, we've 
come to this blank slate now, we've gotta formulate and organize 
our thoughts with reference to Christology. You know where these 
guys went? They went back to the history 
of the church. They went back to Nicaea for chapter 2. They 
went back to Chalcedon for chapter 8. They didn't reform the doctrine 
of God because the church, at least up until that point, had 
gotten it right. The fathers receiving from the 
apostles, the medievals up to the time of the Reformation, 
they didn't come and say, OK, we've got to start with a brand 
new blank slate. They dealt with things, to be 
sure, where they disagreed or were protesting Rome or where 
they wanted reformation, but there were certain things they 
just received from the giants that went before them and didn't 
try to retool them or rework them or refabricate them. They just received them. The 
continuity of theology proper and Christology. As I said, we've 
got the Nicene, we've got the Chalcedon, and then you see them 
make their appearances in 2nd London, chapters 2 and 8. It's 
beautiful, and that's what we should expect. We should hope 
for, we should be thankful for that what God has done in the 
raising up the son of his love, to seat him in his right hand, 
who led captivity captive and gave gifts to man, so that they 
would labor in the word and doctrine, we should expect that along the 
way they got stuff right. And when they got stuff right, 
we should use it. When they got stuff wrong, we 
don't use it. I don't know why this is a tough 
one either. Well, you know, those fathers taught this. Okay, I 
don't care. They taught this, and it's very 
helpful, and it summarizes accurately what Paul's saying. Going through 
this section in Philippians chapter 2, this Christology section, 
the Nicene guys of the Nicene tradition, they weren't making 
stuff up. They're simply articulating what 
the Bible carefully lays out. They did good work. And for us 
today to say, well, you know, those creeds and confessions, 
why would you use that? I think that portrays a bigotry 
and a prejudice. And it's interesting because 
usually the people that hold the confessions are the bigoted 
and prejudiced ones. Oh, you guys are proud. You have 
the second London Confession. You guys are bigoted. You have 
the second London Confession. I think it's just the opposite. 
Richard Moeller says the confessions stand below but also with scripture. They also stand above the potentially 
idiosyncratic individual and prevent him from becoming his 
own norm of doctrine. You want to talk about popery? 
Look at Protestantism over the last couple of generations. Mark 
Driscoll wasn't a pope. These fightin' fundies on their 
own, they're not popes. These churches that have no creed 
but the Bible aren't popes. It's potpourri, full-on, hardcore, 
all the way in. Again, let me just read that 
because it's so good. They, confessions, stand below 
but also with Scripture. They also stand above the potentially 
idiosyncratic individual and prevent him from becoming his 
own norm of doctrine. The non-credal, anti-confessional 
tendency understands the sola scriptura of the Reformation 
in a manner that the Reformers themselves never did and surely 
would have repudiated. The Reformers would most probably 
associate much conservative American religion with the biblicism of 
Servetus and the Sicilians. He's not wrong. He's right on. 
And Matthew Barrett in Simply Trinity, I think it's that first 
chapter that I mentioned is probably the best, Trinity Adrift, he 
addresses this. Interpreting the Bible with humility 
as God intended means interpreting the Bible with the church. We're not islands unto ourselves, 
brethren. We do theology in concert with 
the church. Jesus loves his church. The church is the pillar and 
ground of the truth. Again, I'm not saying that the 
guy who shimmies up to the top of Everest with him and his Bible 
can't get some insights and glean some cool stuff. But usually 
it doesn't happen that way. Usually he who separates himself, 
as Solomon said, seeks his own desire. And he becomes that idiosyncratic 
Pope. Back to Barrett. Interpreting 
the Bible with humility as God intended means interpreting the 
Bible with the church. Many today will respond with 
a shout of protest, no creed but the Bible. That shout, however, 
is a selfish individualism or what I call a crude, narrow biblicism 
that masks itself in the name of biblical authority. Sola Scriptura 
has been misunderstood, even radicalized to mean me and my 
Bible alone. Now, if you think Barrett's making 
this up, he's not. I once had encouraged a fellow 
to read systematic theology. Why? Because I think everybody 
should. But I thought this individual 
really should have. because he had a treasure trove 
of idiosyncratic interpretations. So when I suggested to him that 
he read systematic theology, you know what he did? This is 
my systematic theology. Yeah, so do the Russellites, 
so do the Mormons. Back to Barrett. Sola Scriptura 
has been misunderstood, even radicalized, to mean me and my 
Bible alone. But that is a mindset captive 
to our culture's God, autonomous individualism. It fails to recognize 
that everyone who picks up a Bible is located within history and 
embedded with a specific tradition. That is not a bad thing. It should 
be celebrated, in fact. The only question is whether 
it is the right tradition or not, whether it is a tradition 
that helps or detracts from the Bible as God intended. Now, brethren, 
what I'm not saying is that you cannot read your Bible and come 
up with new things. Please read to your heart's content 
and get those nuggets or gems that God hands down. You've all 
had that, right? You see something in your Bible 
that you hadn't seen before. It's not the case God just put 
it in there. The Spirit guides, the Spirit illumines, the Spirit 
leads. You see things. Because you've 
read more now, you're making connections with other parts 
of scripture, your comprehension level in terms of the whole is 
expanding, and you're sort of connecting trees in the forest. 
That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the guy that 
repudiates the teaching ministry of the church, not just the present 
church, but the history of the church. and says, you know, all 
I need is me, the Bible, and the Spirit. Again, some of the 
worst heresies ever have been hatched in that kind of a context. 
And I think it's good to end here with a quote from Spurgeon. 
I think this is, I mean, he's another patron saint of the Reformed 
Baptists, so we've got to give him a word here. He's speaking about the 1689. 
This ancient document is a most excellent epitome of the things 
most surely believed among us. By the preserving hand of the 
triune Jehovah, we have been kept faithful to the great points 
of our glorious gospel, and we feel more resolved perpetually 
to abide by them. This little volume is not issued 
as an authoritative rule or code of faith whereby you are to be 
fettered. but as an assistance to you in 
controversy, a confirmation in faith, and a means of edification 
and righteousness. Here the younger members of our 
church will have a body of divinity and small compass, and by means 
of the scriptural proofs will be ready to give a reason for 
the hope that is in them. Be not ashamed of your faith. 
Remember, it is the ancient gospel of martyrs, confessors, reformers, 
and saints. Above all, it is the truth of 
God against which the gates of hell cannot prevail. Let your 
lives adorn your faith. Let your example recommend your 
creed. Above all, live in Christ Jesus 
and walk in him, giving credence to no teaching but that which 
is manifestly approved of him and owned by the Holy Spirit. 
Cleave fast to the word of God, which is here mapped out to you. 
Amen. Great. I often encourage people, 
read the Confession. And you've heard me say before, 
I love it not only for its doctrinal precision and the articulation 
of Christian truth, but for its practicality. You know, nobody, 
you know, I say that there's probably somebody, but usually 
nobody prays like David in Psalm 42 and Psalm 43. Why art thou 
downcast, O my soul? Hope thou in God. We don't usually 
want to admit that. How are we doing? We're fine. 
We're great. Everything's great. I guess, you know, part of that's 
courteousness. You don't really want to hear, because it'll take 
you about five hours. I'm not doing great. I got a lot of issues, 
got a lot of problems. But we're always fine. We're 
always great. David actually says, I'm not great. Asaph is 
the king of not greatness. I looked around at the wicked, 
saw them prosper, looked at the righteous, saw them suffer. I 
struggled with that, Asaph tells us. The confession tells us in 
far more practical terms about the reality of struggles in the 
Christian life. Chapters on assurance, chapter 
on sanctification, Yeah, there's times where you're not winning 
the battle. They understand that. They get 
at that. I think one of the most practical 
chapters in the entirety of the Confession is chapter 11. If 
you get justification by faith down, I'm not going to say that 
you'll never have another problem for as long as you live. But 
you're going to be able to manage those problems a whole lot more 
effectively, understanding that there is therefore now no condemnation 
for those who are in Christ Jesus. So the practicality of those 
chapters within the confession of faith are very helpful as 
well. Cultural relevance. There's been a lot of, well, 
we need to update the confession because of the sexual sins, trannyism, 
and all that. Chapter 25 is great. Marriage 
is to be between one man and one woman. Why would we need 
to rework that statement? It pretty much excludes all the 
madness that we're seeing around us today. The chapter on the 
civil magistrate, it's fantastic. Again, I wish more churches pre-COVID 
would have had that framework in their minds and hearts along 
with chapter 21, that God alone is the Lord of the conscience, 
because it may have spared us a lot of anguish and a lot of 
difficulty. The confession is doctrinal, 
and it's very practical as well. Of course, all doctrine is practical, 
right? This idea that we've got to have 
15 principles on how to be a better me. No, we need to preach the 
doctrine of the truth, and God, by His Spirit, will help them 
figure out how to be a better me. So anyways, that's why I 
think we should use a confession. I'll pray, and if there's any 
questions, we can talk about that. Our Father, we thank you 
that we have received this wonderful compendium, this wonderful summary 
statement of Christian doctrine. We pray for your blessing to 
be upon our church. We pray for our young people 
and our children, that they would see the utility and the usefulness 
of these kinds of things, these creeds, these confessions that 
help us understand scripture, at least keep us from flying 
off the mountain in terms of our understanding. We pray that 
you would bless and protect all the churches in the associations, 
and may we indeed shine as lights in this crooked and perverse 
generation, and may we hold forth the truth of God's holy word. 
And we ask this in Jesus' name, amen. Well, any questions or 
comments? Yes, sir. that earlier on in 
your teaching that it's with grace that we need to accept 
people into the membership, and you named some things off, and 
I know the Trinity and the deity of Christ are showstoppers. Arminianism. Yeah, that's a tough one. Definitely 
justification by faith alone would be a showstopper. I'm not 
sure that all Arminians deny justification by faith alone. What's that? Yeah, and I think 
that's been my impression with Arminianism is very inconsistent, 
right? You might have a guy that professes 
Arminianism that's far more solid than somebody that professes 
Calvinism. You know, again, it's that system 
mindset or what they've been taught in the church And, you 
know, it's like, like dispensationalism, I think, in terms of eschatology 
is the default position, because it's pretty much taught everywhere 
outside of the reform tradition. So that when somebody comes and 
hears, oh, it's what? So I think there's Armenians 
like that. A dyed-in-the-wool Armenian, 
a John Wesley, if he came in here breathing his Armenian fire, 
that might be a different story than the old lady that lives 
across the street that just really hasn't ever been told the other 
side. So, you know, case-by-case basis. So instead of having, you know, 
a list of dogmas or doctrines, at least in my mind, it's usually 
in a case-by-case basis. And to be quite honest, practically, 
Armenians don't come here. You know what I mean? Like, if 
they know what we're about, it's not like we're, you know, a year 
in the community. We've been here, you know, going 
on 30 years now, I think. The secret's out, you know, we're 
predestinarian, we're Calvinist, we're Reformed. So I have not, 
in the last while, had anybody say, you know, I'm an avowed 
Arminian. Then I would push, press, and try to tease out what 
it is that they do believe when it comes to salvation. That makes 
sense. But I would suggest Trinity, 
yeah, Christology, yeah, and certainly doctrine of justification 
by faith alone. That would be the framework. 
So Arminianism, you know, and I know that there's Arminians 
that affirm good theology proper and good Christology, which the 
Christology and then the work of Christ, I don't know how they 
get there or how they do it, but yeah, I think case by case 
basis with the applicant. Yes, sir. So what do you make 
of, thank you, helpful. What do you make of someone like 
Spurgeon, who notoriously modified 10.3, and yeah, what do you make 
of that? I'm not Spurgeon, so I wouldn't 
modify the confession. And I think Spurgeon is an anomaly 
in the history of the church. I mean, one of the most helpful 
things I ever heard from, I think it was Piper, and it was in the 
context of Edwards. It may have been Spurgeon. You're 
not him and you'll never be him. Okay. God made some mountains 
in the history of the church. Spurgeon was one of those. And he did other things that 
concerned me as well, had other views that concerned me as well. 
Practically, I wouldn't do that. I think it would be an ecclesiastical. 
It would have to be an ecclesiastical situation. If an association 
wanted to put in an addendum or some further clarification, 
I think that association or ecclesiastical body is free to do that. But 
one pastor saying, you know what? I like this better. No, I'm not 
comfortable with that. where there isn't really a structural 
shift in the rest of the Catechism. Like, confession, not everything 
hangs on that distinction. Whereas if you say, like, Christ 
is, we're not going to refer to Christ as prophet, priest, 
and king, right? Like, we're going to downplay 
that. We're like, something else that's more structural gives 
a whole. That goes sideways too, yeah. Everything else is connected 
in some way. I mean, novices would argue that 
that is connected. No, I agree, yeah. It's not foundational 
or systemic throughout the confession. Yeah. Yes, sir. What do you do with some Christians 
who might believe there's errors in the description? What do I 
do with them? I'm a softy and a nice guy. I 
actually don't do anything mean to people usually. I show them 
my new knife. If somebody denies inerrancy 
or infallibility, what do I do with them? I would exhort them 
to change their minds because you can't do that. All scripture 
is given by inspiration of God. It's not some scripture. It's 
not part of scripture. It's all scripture. And then 
on what basis, practically, are you then the decider and arbiter 
of what is and what isn't? I mean, how do people not see 
this as the big problem? If I deny the historicity of 
Adam, how do I end up with the historicity of Jesus? How do 
I navigate? Because what I think, that's 
just arbitrary, it's folly, and it's certainly not a Christian 
position. So repentance, you need to believe that the Bible 
is infallible, the Bible is inerrant. We don't have any more time, 
so yeah. Yeah, I like it. I love it. That's 
a big one. But a different one than inerrancy, 
right? I think the transmission of the 
scriptures from their original to the copies is one issue separate 
from the Bible has errors, right? Those are two different fish 
to fry. You just had to throw that out.