[Music] uh is there different types of faith for example temporary historical or saving go ahead because another one that gets often put out there is Mira uh miraculous Faith or faith and miracles right faith and miracles that's the four I got grew up being taught is those four temporary historical miraculous and saving I mean I didn't understand the nature of the question are there more than what are the different saving faith is different than a historical or a temporary faith and I think the Bible furnishes us examples of you know historical faith I think at some points along the way in John's gospel some of them seem to be tracking that Jesus did sort of cross off the list all that was necessary for messiah it seems to me at least at certain points it was probably within the last 6 months so I don't know 11-ish maybe John chap 11 somewhere in there it seemed like some of them started to kind of get it that yeah he could actually be the one that the that the prophets and Moses wrote about that didn't put them in the category of saving you know temporary Faith you have persons that make a profession they seem to be good for a while but they're fake and then the genuine saving faith is those who by Grace believe on the Lord Jesus Christ as he's uh preached in the gospel and as the confession uses the metaphorical language of of belief is receiving and resting upon him and that faith that is alone is accompanied by all other saving Graces so it's not a dead faith it worketh through love um but yeah that's qualitatively different than the temporary or the the the um historical you know somebody might be and I think there are those people you know I've read studied all the religious systems and if any of them are right it's Christianity and you know they said they have no reason to doubt that Jesus was who he said he was there's no believe it in the sense of I'm going to lay my I'm going to receive him and rest upon him so yeah I think again we don't see those terms applied but I definitely think we see the concepts involved in scripture now my brain's working a little bit better chapter 14 of our confession paragraph 3 um does say this Faith although be different in degree uh degrees and may be weak or strong talking about saving faith yet it is in the least degree of it different in the kind or nature of it as is all other Saving Grace from the faith and common Grace of temporary Believers so weak faith is still saving Faith uh we can also distinguish between the Act of Faith and the object of faith we the ones who believe but the object of faith is Jesus Christ and so um we look to him we believe upon him we have faith in in someone faith in Jesus Christ um but one who has a temporary faith has not done that they have not looked to Christ by faith because it is different so the confession does highlight that and even a weak Faith may be many times assailed and weakened yet it gets the victory growing up in many to the attainment of a full Assurance through Christ who is both the author and finisher of our faith so paragraph three is helpful there yeah yeah like na has a good point in his what is Faith and he makes the comment that weak faith will not move mountains but there is one thing at least that it will do it will bring a sinner into peace with God our Salvation does not depend upon the strength of our faith saving faith is a channel not a force if you are once really committed to Christ then despite your subsequent doubts and fears you are his forever that's a good statement weak faith will not remove mountains but there is one thing at least that it will do the opposite of you know the the faith yeah like the confession says it can vary it grows it's fed it's nourished it's built up but if there is even you know mustard seeds worth and you look unto the Lord Jesus Christ that's the mustard seeds worth that you need yeah yeah yeah just you know cuz I finished reading pilgrims prog part two recently there characters like that weak Faith Fel faith and Halt halting and whatever but they get to the river and they cross they so somehow the Lord is good yeah yeah and but yeah the parable of the sewer as well the seed falling in hard ground whatever it's like people can go to church hey that was a great sermon is it really impacting emotional and a week later it's gone they never come again yeah yeah yeah oh yeah
