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All right, so we're back here 
to record more questions. This is batch number four. We've 
done some previous ones with Pastor Mike and with Dr. Renahan and Dr. Rossellos. So, 
glad to have Pastor Cam with us. So, welcome here. Thank you. 
Good to be here. Yes, this is question 34. We've 
already done 33. So, we'll see how many we get 
through. So, this question, I'm not going 
to read the question that was given. I think it's just not 
something we should answer here. So I kind of rephrase this. How much marriage counseling 
should pastors be able to provide? Like, should they? And they can't 
be experts on everything, as you say, right? I always liken pastoral ministry 
to your general practitioner, your family doctor. He can troubleshoot 
quite a few things, but sometimes people need specialists. So if 
somebody needs specialists, then I think a good pastor has some 
names or numbers that he can refer people to, to get that 
more in-depth help for their particular problems. But I think 
for the most part, In my observation, it usually comes down to a failure 
to obey God. Either her husband's not loving 
his wife as Christ loved the church, or the wife is not submitting 
to her husband as unto the Lord. Usually, one or the other, or 
oftentimes both, aren't doing what God calls them to do. So, 
I think that's a pretty You know, in terms of complexity, it's 
pretty simple response. You need to repent and obey God 
and do what he says in terms of your marriage. But as I said, 
there are complexities. I think there are specialists 
and it's fine for people to go see that, seek that out. Marriage 
is messy, right? Because Paul writes back to Genesis 
3. So there's a lot of nuances there. That's right. But you got to be able to help 
them navigate that somehow. That's right. Yeah. not just 
reject and say, well, I'll go talk to the psychologist or counselor. 
It's not hands-off, right? I think it's very important that 
the pastor takes a kick at the can and tries to prescribe some 
helps and remedies and encouragements and definitely prayer for those 
people. But as I said, sometimes it may 
need a bit more. You know, a pastor's busy, and 
I don't mean that in a bad way, but he's preaching to the whole 
church. Yeah. Yeah, just look at that 
question. But yeah, let's leave it there. 
So awesome. Thanks.